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  1. You can schedule an appointemtnt in QuestDiagnostics, for example. You don't need a doctor. You pay for the test, thwy take your blood, and that's all. I think, it's $80, the test. This is really helpful to do because doctors don't want to test you for herpes. Just some of them will test you for it. They give you the results in one day. Regards,
  2. Hi Grace, I kind of agree with @DistressedLady. You have HSV-1, as I can remember. So, what's the fear? The chances of giving it to him are super super super low, and the chances of he already having it too. You shouldn't be worried. Maybe, you have recurrent symptoms? Or it's the OCD making you feel bad?
  3. Completely agree with @Flowerteacher55. You don't ping-pong HSV-1 once you got it in your mouth and you built inmunity. The only way to get in other parts of your body is if you are a wrestler, then you get herpes gladiatorum (because the friction on the mat causes cuts and allow the virus to enter). I don't think you have such a hardcore sex.
  4. What I understood from Terri Warren on a podcast, when she made a study of IGM-IGG test vs Western Blot: - IGM: It is worthless. It is not recommended. - IGG for HSV-1 and HSV-2: 12-16 weeks after exposure, an IGG test is higly reliable. The antibody tests for HSV 2 have a sensitivity of about 92% (out of every 100 cases of herpes, the test will pick up 92 of them). If a test is positive between 0.9 and 3.5, the chances of being a false positive are 50%. The closer the index value of 1.1, the more likely to be a false positive. She mentioned she had found a false positive as high as 5.07, but it was rare. Numbers above 3.5 are positive. In these cases of low positive (0.9-3.5), she highly recommends a Western Blot. - In the case of HSV-1: The IGG test misses 30% of the positive cases; but for HSV-2, it is different, the false positives are most likely in these frame numbers (0.9 - 3.5). However, all the people tested positive for HSV-1 in IGG was 100% positive in western blot. Terri Warren is not against the IGG blood test; in fact, she doesn't agree with doctors that don't test their they patients with the excuse "there are a lot of false positives". Most false positives are more likely to happen within the range (1.1-3.5); and false negatives in people who get tested too fast and don't wait the window time (12-16 weeks).
  5. What I understood from Terry Warren on a podcast, when she made a study of IGM-IGG test vs Western Blot: - IGM: It is worthless, as @mr_hopp says. It is not recommended. - IGG for HSV-1 and HSV-2: 12-16 after exposure, an IGG test is higly reliable. The antibody tests for HSV 2 have a sensitivity of about 92% (out of every 100 cases of herpes, the test will pick up 92 of them). If a test is positive between 0.9 and 3.5, the chances of being a false positive are 50%. The closer the index value of 1.1, the more likely to be a false positive. She mentioned she had found a false positive as high as 5.07, but it was rare. Numbers above 3.5 are positive. In these cases of low positive (0.9-3.5), she highly recommends a Western Blot. - In the case of HSV-1: The IGG test misses 30% of the positive cases; but for HSV-2, it is different, the false positives are most likely in these frame numbers (0.9 - 3.5). However, all the people tested positive for HSV-1 in IGG was 100% positive in western blot. Terri Warren is not against the IGG blood test; in fact, she doesn't agree with doctors that don't test their they patients with the excuse "there are a lot of false positives". Most false positives are more likely to happen within the range (1.1-3.5); and false negatives in people who get tested to fast and don't wait the window time (12-16 weeks). I would also assume that it is a false positive since you have a really low positive, waited 3.5 months to get tested again, and your last partners tested negative. However, if, psycologically, you are ruminating and it makes you feel bad and it causes you anxiety, go for the Western blot, or get tested again for the blood test. In your case, it makes sense. I am confident it will be negative and you will feel fine.
  6. There is a wrong statisctic. @Flowerteacher55 Probably you meant 67% has HSV-1, not HSV-2.
  7. Here is the link of the video: https://www.herpesopportunity.com/post/dr-peter-leone-answers-your-questions-about-herpes
  8. HSV-2 oral is extremely rare. Just 2% of cases are oral HSV-2. HSV-2 really really really prefers the sacral ganglia and not the trigeminal ganglia. You won't get oral HSV-2 and you are safe practicing oral. Even if you get oral HSV-2, since it doesn't like the tregeminal ganglia at all, one outbreak max and that's all. Viral shedding of HSV-2 is almost 0. So, don't worry. --- HSV-1 is different. It's prefered place is the tregeminal ganglia, but it can spread to the genital area when the person hasn't acquired the virus before and hasn't built inmunity (6 months-1 year). People get genital HSV-1 when their first exposure to the virus is with oral sex. Watch the episode with Peter Leone, a doctor and top researcher about herpes. It is in this website, and also in youtube. He talks about it. Educate yourself. Knowledge is power.
  9. - HSV-1 has 80% of the population, and most of it is oral (98%). - You get it during childhood with the kiss of an aunt, a grandpa, grandma. - When you get it orally, after 6 months-1 year, you are unlikely to get it in other part of your body since you build inmunity. - You get genital HSV-1 when you initiate your sexual life without having the virus, and your first exposure to the virus is with oral sex. So, this it what happened. You didn't catch the virus before like most humans, and your first exposure to the virus was with oral sex. Now: - Genital HSV-1 is the nicer one to have. Recurrences are rare (1.2 per year) and most people with genital HSV-1 don't have outbreaks at all after the first-second year. - Since HSV-1 doesn't like the sacral ganglia, viral sheding (when you shed the virus without symptoms) is really small. - Transmission of genital HSV-1 with genital to genital contact is very very very unlikely. You get genital HSV-1 through oral sex. - If your girlfriend already has oral HSV-1, she won't get it down stairs. One because she already built inmunity to get it in other part of her body; and second, because transmission with genital-genital contact doesn't happen. .- Yes, you can get HSV-1 oral and genitally if you don't give the time to build inmunity. - NO. Your girlfriend is not in risk. Conclusion: Blame your mother, uncle, aunt, grandma, and the ex-girlfriends that didn't give you oral hsv-1 in your childhood/teenage years, and your first exposure to it was with oral sex. She is not in risk. Enjoy sex and don't worry. You got genital herpes, but you got the nicer one. It is not her fault. Your sex life must be the same. It won't change. Welcome to the 80% of people who has HSV-1. Bad luck it was downstairs, but is not the end of the world. --- If it was HSV-2, it would be a different story.
  10. If you get a blood test, you will have two indicators: IGM & IGG. IGM antibodies develop when you get the virus for the first time and they take up to 10 days to show up in a test and they can last up to 21 days. After that, this indicator desapears and then the IGG indicator will become positive. IGG will always remain positive, meaning you have the virus with you forever. IGG can take up to 12-16 weeks to show up in a test. IGG after this frametime is extremely reliable. It doesn't matter if you have symptoms or not. IGG will tell you if you have it or not. It has nothing to do with symptoms. According to the dates you gave, you got tested to soon to get the IGM indicator. Second, if you both tested negative, I assume that it is not herpes and it is something else. To be sure, take the test in 12-16 weeks after last exposure. If it comes back positive for both or one of you, it will mean that somebody has been unfaithful.
  11. The antibody test is reliable after 3 months, the time it takes to your body to produce antibodies, but you can do it as soon as possible to know about it. If you do the test soon after exposure and it comes back negative and positive in three months, you can know, for sure, that he gave you herpes. If you do the test in 10 days after exposur and it comes back positive, it means you already had herpes before.
  12. The antibody test you did is reliable after three months after last exposure. If this time has not passed, try to get another test in the next weeks. It takes up to 3 months to make antibodies (not a year). After 3 months, it is extremly reliable. Also, your image just shows hsv-2. Did you get tested for hsv-1? Regards,
  13. Yes. You can assume you don't have it. A visual inspection is the worst thing to do. Probably you had another thing, and not herpes. It happens a lot. If you had listened the podcast, Terri Warren says that there are cases were doctors just tell it's herpes with a visual observation, without making a swab or an antibody test. If it was 3-4 years ago, and now you have a negative test, you are fine. YOU DON'T HAVE IT! If you want to do the test again to be sure, do it, if it makes you feel better psychologically. The last thing you can do is a western blood test, performed by the University of Washington, if it stills makes you feel better psychologically.
  14. https://www.ashasexualhealth.org/diagnosing-managing-genital-herpes-two-part-conversation-terri-warren-rn-anp/ Here you can listen a podcast about it. This is Terry Warren. She is one of the best researches about herpes. It was useful for me all I learnt from her. There are also several podcasts with her in youtube.
  15. IGM sometimes is good for some people when they get the first outbreak. If it comes positive, it means that you got it recently. It helps to people to know that the person who gave them is their current partner. For example, if you get tested and you get a IGG positive, and negative IGM, you can't know the person who gave it to you. You could got it one-5-6-10 years ago and you didn't know.
  16. IGM are the antibodies you make after acquiring the infection for the first time, and it will catch the antibodies between 9-15 days after exposure. After that, they disappear and become IGG. IGG antibodies means that you have antiboies and that you acquiered herpes for the rest of yuor life. IGG will always remain positive. IGM is wrothless. It is not recommended to test for HSV-1 os HSV-2, in fact. IGG is highly reliable and confident if you do it at least, 3 months after exposure (after you had sex with a person with herpes). After three months, it is very effective. That's the difference. I hope this helped you. Let me know if you have more questions.
  17. Just to make a comment about the question if your mom has HSV-2. This question does not make sense. When a child gets HSV-2 during the labor, the baby gets really really sick, with the fear to die. When the baby gets it, you will no he got it. The baby will always get sick. This you can research, it's 100% true. Regards,
  18. Take a blood work. It will say if you have antibodies. It is extremly reliable after 3 months of last exposure.
  19. You shouldn't feel bad. You proceded like the text-book. It's normal that you feel bad about it, but don't let it take your energy since you acted un the right way. As a man, I can tell you that he is probably having all the thoughts we have when we get the virus: - Nobody is gonna love me. - I am dirty. - How did I allow this in my life. - This is my fault. - I'll have this for the rest of my life. - Everybody is gonna make fun of me. - I don't want people to know about it. - Should I stay in this relationship? I don't want to disclose this to a new person. If he likes you, he will come back with you. Just let him think and give him space. I would suggest that you can tell him how you feel, without making a drama: that you like him; that you took care of him as much as you could, but it happened; you can imagine how he feels; that you feel bad; that you liked him since the beggining and disclose it as a sign of respect; that you still respect him; that you want to be with him; that you respect his decision. You did right and he knows he can't blame you. You got all his respect because of it as I can imagine when I read your story. I think he is processing how it will be having the virus, and assuming the condition, maybe. That's a possible interpretation. In my case, the woman didn't disclose it to me. She disclosed ir after months in the relationship. I really loved her. In my case, not disclosing was the reason I ended the relationship. I couldn't forgive it and I still think that if she had disclosed before being with her, I'd have been with her. I hope your guy figures out how he feels soon. Regards,
  20. If I were you, I'd stop thinking about it. 80% of population has HSV-1. What if he had it and doesn't know it? What if he got it when he was a kid? What if he already got it and won't get it genitally? What if... What if... What if There are always chances, but there are chances he already has it, etc. HSV-1 is really common, and you can't know if he didn't get tested before bbeing with you, or if he gets tested now. I'd suugest you to ask him to get tested. Also, the frequence of outbreaks you have are high. Are you sure you have HSV-1 and not HSV-2? Normally, HSV-1 genital outbreaks are not often (1.2 per year) and just occur in the first 1-2 years, since HSV-1 doesn't really like the sacral ganglia. Regards,
  21. And also, you get HSV-1 genital when you didn't acquire HSV-1 oral before. If your first exposure to the virus is with oral sex, that's when you get HSV-1 genital.
  22. Transmission of HSV-1 genital to genital is extremely rare. Viral shedding of HSV-1 genital herpes is less than 2%. You get HSV-1 from oral sex if you have HSV-1 oral. If he never got tested before being with you, you can't know. 80% of population already has HSV-1.
  23. IGG test are highly reliable after 6 months of exposure. My suggestion is to get a swab test when you get an outbreak. The other way if you want to really know if you in fact have herpes, take the UW Western Blot test. That's the golden standard test for herpes. I would suggest that you don't have herpes and you have anonther condition. There are several conditions that can be mistaken for herpes. Regards,
  24. Hi, I'd like to tell you that having genital HSV-1 is different than genital HSV-2. 50-80% of americans already have oral HSV-1. Once you get it orally (normally during chilhood), you build inmunity to get it in other places. Viral shedding of genital HSV-1 is extremly low (1-2%) compared to gential hsv-2 (12-20%). According to Terry Warren, a well known researcher about herpes, transmission of genital HSV-1 does not occur (or it is extremly rare) from genital to genital contact. It occurs from oral sex. Outbreaks with genital hsv-1 are less common. Normally, it is 1.2 per year, in the worst cases. Therefore: 1. Don't be afraid to transmit it to your next partner. The chances your next partner already has HSV-1 is high. Just ask him to get tested. 2. DOn't be afraid of outbreaks.
  25. Hi Brii, You are not alone on this. THe answer is NO. Your kids won't get it sharing spoons or towels. It is skin to skin contact. Regarding Herpes 1, 50-80% of americans already have it. If your kids don't catch it from you, they will end up catching it from kissing in the future. About herpes-2. Well. I'd suggest to ask your partner to get tested and know if you both have it, so you can make choices about your sex life. Check this video, you will get all the informatino you need from Terry Warren. SHe is one of the best researchers and experts about herpes. If you like it, keeo watching interviews with her. There is a podcast with her in this website. Other well known researcher is Peter Leone. Here I attache the link as well. THe only advise I can give you, STOP looking for information in internet from people that don't know about it. Even doctors are ignorant about it.
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