cure for herpes?

[billings]

I am reading lots of interesting articles regarding the vaccine / cure for herpes. I know there are tons of scams so everyone thinks there is no cure for herpes... but the technology seems to be changing. Do you think there will be a cure in the near future?

[mr_hopp]

Hey billings! Here's a blog post I wrote and video on this topic. Short answer: Don't put your life on hold until there is a cure for herpes. It might never come. Then what did you do all that time waiting? If it does come (probably earliest will be about 5 years after any clinical trials and such), then it'll be a pleasant surprise. Live your life now. Learn how to get to the point where you discover yourself as the kind of person who shines brighter than a simple skin condition.

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-cure/

[lelani]

Hey Billings...I'm with Adrial on this too - get out there and enjoy life now :-). Funnily enough I haven't bothered to even look...and only just realised it when I read your post.

(how many is 'lots'? ;-) ).

I'm not worrying about a cure... like Adrial says, I am discovering I shine brighter than H. It hasn't been easy but the journey has been an emotional adventure and I am learning all the time!

Glad you posted...it made me think. :-) x

[genussbutterfly]

I did the same thing on Monday was listening to what some of these silly people had to say. Honestly I wouldn't even waste my time because all the things you see on websites are scams and there all american websites. They have the use of these so called doctors telling you there is a cure but they never can just come and tell you what the cure is. There is always money and personal info involved.

 

Lelani and Adrial are right live your life and if there is a Herpes cure down the line you will be suprised and also alot more happier but until then don't hope or even think that any of that bogus is true. The internet is full of inaccurate information (was told several times by the GUM clinic as I turned up there one day crying my eyes out cos I read inaccurate info on the internet) and I certainly wouldn't like to know that your putting your life on hold waiting for something that may or may never come.

 

Think of it like this. Its a skin condition. Doesn't affect your health, it wont kill you. There will not be a cure in a hurry. Think of it like this also the pharmica are not going to spend money to cure a cold sore condition, It takes years and alot of money to do so (know this, my friend studies medicine). See it like this. A couple of cold sores that a lot of people get. Then think about those people that live with serious conditions, they need the cures cos there the ones that probably wont live as long as we would, so have hope yes I totally agree but don't put your life on hold. Its not worth it.

 

But your post was very interesting though...

[Sayyywhatt]

Hello there like everyone has said don't wait on a cure go out nd live your life. Ihave type 1 diabetes for almost 12 years now and there is no cure for it. Having that I've learnsd your just the same as everyone else just have something for the rest of your life no big deal!!! During my OB istill went to work eventhough in pain and still did fun stuff and was just like everyone else. Hopefully in the future I'm hopeing for a core for both H and diabetes weather its when I'm alive or not. But until then live my life normally :)

[wendygeorge]

billings... There is No Cure for Herpes till date.Beware of the fake promises, made by medicines manufacturers. Although, some of the natural therapies like hypericum mysorense and nosodes can be very helpful for a person. Do research about medicines having them as ingredients and may you come to know about their amazing results.

[genussbutterfly]

Wendygeorge, can i look for that in health shops?. I live in the UK also. I looked online and it seems like I can only buy it off of a website...

[wendygeorge]

@ genussbutterfly I don't know about that particular website about which you are asking here.Although, if you really came to know about any such website, then you can go with it. I haven't ever done researching about which medicine manufacturer is providing the medicines having ingredients which I mentioned.

[tinalovely112]

I did the same thing on Monday was listening to what some of these silly people had to say. Honestly I wouldn't even waste my time because all the things you see on websites are scams and there all american websites. They have the use of these so called doctors telling you there is a cure but they never can just come and tell you what the herpes cure is. There is always money and personal info involved.

 

Lelani and Adrial are right live your life and if there is a Herpes cure down the line you will be suprised and also alot more happier but until then don't hope or even think that any of that bogus is true. The internet is full of inaccurate information (was told several times by the GUM clinic as I turned up there one day crying my eyes out cos I read inaccurate info on the internet) and I certainly wouldn't like to know that your putting your life on hold waiting for something that may or may never come.

 

Think of it like this. Its a skin condition. Doesn't affect your health, it wont kill you. There will not be a cure in a hurry. Think of it like this also the pharmica are not going to spend money to cure a cold sore condition, It takes years and alot of money to do so (know this, my friend studies medicine). See it like this. A couple of cold sores that a lot of people get. Then think about those people that live with serious conditions, they need the cures cos there the ones that probably wont live as long as we would, so have hope yes I totally agree but don't put your life on hold. Its not worth it.

 

But your post was very interesting though...

Any updates about the cure yet? I am searching for everywhere and it seems to be that there is no cure yet, right?

 

 

[WCSDancer2010]

No cure, nothing likely for at least 5 years. More likely there will be a vaccine first ... which will help our bodies to shed less.

 

You have to realize 3 things that are against a cure happening anytime soon:

 

1) Herpes won't kill you

 

2) There are a lot more serious things that Big Pharma will invest in first

 

3) They will make more money off of anti-virals (that we have to keep taking) than they will with a cure.

 

On top of that, its just plain hard to kill Herpes because of how it goes latent in the nerves. In order to kill it off (as far as we know) you would have to fool ALL of the virus in the nerves to leave the nerves at once ... and THEN try to kill it, which might be VERY unpleasant and potentially dangerous ...

 

I've had this 35 yrs, and they've talked about a cure or vaccine all that time, but nothing has happened since the anti-virals came along in the mid-80's. I'm personally not holding my breath ... I'll be grateful when it comes, of course I hope it happens one day, but I'm realistic that it's not going to happen in the immediate future :(

 

If you really want to see everything we know up till now, these links will keep you busy for awhile :)

 

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/comment/19425

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/comment/18967

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/3786

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/6159/a-real-potential-vaccine-breakthrough

http://io9.com/new-vaccine-proven-effective-against-genital-and-oral-h-1690680072

http://www.hhmi.org/news/radical-vaccine-design-effective-against-herpes-viruses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex_research

 

http://www.dovepress.com/efficacy-of-the-anti-vzv-anti-hsv3-vaccine-in-hsv1-and-hsv2-recurrent--peer-reviewed-article-OAJCT Shingles vaccine for HSV?

 

http://www.providencejournal.com/business/press-releases/20141008-nanobio-to-present-data-demonstrating-the-potential-for-its-intranasal-vaccine-to-protect-against-genital-herpes-infection.ece

 

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/IDWeek/48051

 

http://medcitynews.com/2014/10/herpes-vaccine-maker-genocea-reports-positive-results-year-first-dose/

 

http://herpesvaccine.scienceblog.com/2014/05/10/how-does-the-human-immune-system-respond-to-a-hsv-2-vaccine/

 

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/4774/dr-leone-enrolling-a-herpes-vaccine-research-study-and-it-pays

 

http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/2014/12/04/breakthrough-in-herpes-treatment-may-lead-to-success-against-viruses/19917107/

 

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/819306 Pritelivir and the 900x/dose trial

 

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/pharma-drug-bankrupting-america Reality check of what a “cure” may cost

[DazedConfused]

I don't know if its just me but I'm feeling that I would rather be alone than have to tell someone that I have herpes.

[2Legit2Quit]

I've disclosed twice now and it was apparently, all a big build up in my own head. The people who really wanna be w you, don't see it as that big of a deal. I'm not sure how long you've had this, but it feels that way at first.. It's taken me a yr and a half to be where I am mentally w it right now. I'm not sure your age, but I'm 34 and I've been through so much worse and know worse will come at some time in my life again. This is not something I can get rid of or change, so I had to fake it till ya make it. 1. Live in the present. 2. Don't allow fear to be the front seat driver. Most things you fear are a figment of your imagination and you end up projecting these feelings and fears in real life where none of that exists; thus becoming a self-fullfilling prophecy. 3. You have two choice's. A. be alone forever in fear of a rejection that may never happen or exist. B. Risk possible rejection at times, but have experienced love and find great love. 5. You have to keep H in perspective. I listened to a guy lose his life a month ago. It made me think about how many if us treat this virus like it's a death sentence and I felt so pretty when this happened. Here this man and his family was losing a life and I a year ago, acted like my life was over when diagnosed. 6. You need time to heal, grieve and be by yourself. The least if your worries should be about another person who doesn't even exist in your life right now. Focus on nurturing your soul, as you're the only person who has access to feed it .. Don't starve it by focusing and feeding on what has gone wrong and what if's.

[Paul3000]

Are any of these natural cures real

[2Legit2Quit]

No

[WCSDancer2010]

@Paul3000

 

If you think that Big Pharma would not find a way to "copy" a natural cure if one existed, you need to re-think what you know of Big Pharma.... if they worked, BP would find a way to chemically make the same thing so they could patent it and make big bucks out of it. So - sorry - no. Perhaps some may help *SOME* people's bodies control it well enough that it stops their outbreaks and they *think* they are "cured" - but the virus will be there and it could always rear it's head again in the future.

 

 

[WCSDancer2010]

@DazedConfused

 

Well, think on this. How many things are there out there that people are sooooo ashamed of that they feel they are either un-datable, or that they will have to settle?

 

Mental Illness - soooo many disorders right here alone

PTSD

Eating Disorders

Multiple Sclerosis

Past Bankruptcy

Psoriasis

OCD

Addictions

Obesity

Physical Challenges

(anything from missing a limb to many physical disorders)

Sexual Orientation

(esp those like Transgender/Intersex/BiSexual/PanSexual/etc)

Sexual "Preferences"

(BDSM, Fetishes, etc. I dated a guy for 3 yrs who had a HUGE Shoe Fetish and had believed for most of his life that he was ALONE in that sexual fetish and was ashamed by it.....)

General Financial Struggles

(aka: the kind that make women "settle" for anyone who will "take care of her")

Many Illnesses exp AutoImmune Disorders

(Many are not easily definable or understandable by those who don't suffer with them)

 

That's a quick list... if I sat down with a roomful of people, I could easily quadruple this list:

 

YOU may be convinced that Herpes is "worse" than all these as far as disclosure/dating or even telling your friends and family. But if you went into a roomful of people with any of these issues, you would hear many who feel EXACTLY as you do: they would rather die alone than tell someone their nasty, horrible, deep dark "secret".

 

Most of our stigmas are societal based: our society "tells" us that those things are "bad" or "nasty" or "a punishment"... whatever. Why do we allow those things to control us and keep us from living a wonderful, fulfilled life?

 

It all comes down to FEAR OF REJECTION. And that reaction is just that; it's a PRIMAL reaction that was originally designed to keep us ALIVE. If you didn't do what society told you was "right", if you didn't fit in, you were banned or shunned. Kicked out. And then the Saber Toothed Tiger would get you. So we are designed to allow ourselves to be coerced into doing anything we can to be "like everyone else", to "fit in", and Lord forbid we have anything that may be seen as a sin/punishment/flaw in our characters/whatever.

 

Today, we can CHOOSE to not allow that very primitive part of our brains to run our lives. It takes practice and it takes getting out of your comfort zone. But it can free you to be someone you have NO IDEA exists inside of you.

 

So - I suggest you do several things to start:

 

1) Stay on here, and read all the Success Stories that you can. Just that can help you to see how many beautiful people are out there who love UNCONDITIONALLY. I don't know about you, but with or without Herpes THAT is the person I want in my life, and Herpes can HELP you find that person.

 

2) Perhaps you can look at how you perceive those people in the list above. How would you feel about dating any of them if they disclosed their issue to you? Not saying that you should date any of them - but understanding that we ALL have our "limits", or criterion of what we are comfortable with helps us to accept that someone might have Herpes on their "no go" list. And that this is OK ... it's their right, just as you may not want to date someone who has a recent bankruptcy in their life or who suffers from PTSD. We ALL should be honest about our limits ... and it doesn't make EITHER person (the person who walks away, or the person with the "stigma) a "bad" person. It's who we are. And there's nothing wrong with that.

 

3) Learn about the Rejection Response (links below). Understanding how much of our response is automatic helped me to learn to let it go - or at least, be willing to ride out that response when it happens because I know it's my primitive brain at work, and not at all logical or truly necessary in today's world.

 

4) Finally, try to wrap your head around the concept that you can use Herpes as your OPPORTUNITY to attract better people to you. As I'm sure you've seen, I've found it makes a GREAT Wingman in my life. It usually shows me the "real" side of a person pretty fast. Some may try to hide it (as some find when the person is nice at first, then fades away).... but really, who wants ANYONE in their life who doesn't love them UNCONDITIONALLY? Friend or otherwise. So, perhaps you can try on the concept that if someone walks away, is "rude/ugly", if they choose not to be in your life simply because of one little pain in the ass virus, WHY THE HELL DO YOU WANT THEM ANYWHERE NEAR YOU? And why would you allow their reaction to make you upset or depressed? They are just not meant to be in your life. Those who TRULY love you won't bat an eye at your disclosure or at the very least they will get educated and then it will be a non-event for them. Think about it :)

 

http://supporttruthanddialog.com/disclosure-its-not-just-about-herpes/

 

http://www.match.com/magazine/article/4010/I-Have-a-Secret-How-to-Reveal-It-To-Your-Date/

 

http://supporttruthanddialog.com/rejection_its-all-about-perspective/ (my blog)

 

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/4699/first-real-disclosure-first-real-rejection Rejection as your teacher…..

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201307/10-surprising-facts-about-rejection

 

[hippyherpy]

Interesting post right above. Got me thinking- instead of trying compare having an issue (like herpes or any of the above) to something you consider wors in order to feel better about your situation, there might be another, larger approach to framing it. I've done that before and said to myself "well, at least I don't have (insert "worse") thing here.

 

The problem with that kind of thinking is that one day, you just might get that "worse" thing, and then what? The thing you used to say your other thing was relatively ok when compared to is now your new thing. Are you going to look for an even worse thing to which it can be compared?

 

There are things right now that I could think of that I consider far worse than herpes that aren't even on that list.

 

I'm realizing the problem with doing the "lesser of two evils" comparison is that it still comes from a center of fear.

 

Almost all fears distill down to fear of death or suffering. Death to me is probably just like going to sleep, but suffering is the one that brings pain. To me, big problem with herpes is already there before most people get infected- and most our society is "infected" with this bigger problem.

 

We are too attached materialistic things and are out of touch with that which makes us feel truly alive. It's a crisis of spirituality. Most everyone wants to live in a safe bubble with no adversity and don't want to believe that we are going to die. Most people want to believe that even after our heart stops beating, that we still live on. People are terrified of death.

 

The way I've heard people talk about herpes- using it as one of the bad things to compare it too "well at least you don't have VD like herpes" shows this kind of thinking. I used to think like this up until very recently, comparing the lesser of two evils.

 

But always looking for the worse thing is just an endless hamster wheel that doesn't get at the heart of the problem, which is focusing on the negative.

 

I think the best thing to do is focus on the positive aspects of life instead of comparing the lesser of two evils (which is like trying to put a babdaid on a spiritual bullet wound).

 

I'm not a Buddhist or religious, but I've researched zen, and there are aspects of it which deal with non attachment. Might be a good thing to check out for anyone who feels like they are trapped by modern life.

 

 

 

 

[NothingGoodGetsAway]

Well said @hippyherpy

 

I had these same thoughts when I was going through my diagnosis. People would say "well it's not Y or it's not Z" and all I could think was...well if it was, I would be able to deal with those, too, right? Because if you tell yourself you're strong enough only for X, what would happen if Y happens?

 

We need to tell ourselves that we are, can, and will deal with whatever comes our way. And learn to cherish those things that are still very positive in our lives...whether it's our parents that are still alive, amazing friends, a steady job or a flourishing romance...and realize that, though we might not have realized it before, we lead great lives. And maybe if the one thing that came out of having H is realizing that our bodies are something to cherish, and that we are lucky in so many other ways, maybe we can turn it into the "opportunity" that this site stands by :)

[2Legit2Quit]

@hippyherpy you said:

We are too attached materialistic things and are out of touch with that which makes us feel truly alive. It's a crisis of spirituality. Most everyone wants to live in a safe bubble with no adversity and don't want to believe that we are going to die. Most people want to believe that even after our heart stops beating, that we still live on. People are terrified of death.

 

The way I've heard people talk about herpes- using it as one of the bad things to compare it too "well at least you don't have VD like herpes" shows this kind of thinking. I used to think like this up until very recently, comparing the lesser of two evils.

 

Incredibly thought provoking! I love what you said about spiritually and I think you just really made a huge valid point, that I myself never gave consideration to. Unfortunately I think most people do this w everything. Even me being depressed, by neighbor says why are you depressed? You have a house, a nice care and a successful career.

 

Obviously so much more goes into what makes someone depressed from materialistic things, but I think humans really only know how to analyze things, by comparing it to things. I think you're right though. We're not living enough in the present and appreciating our current state, but always looking at what coukd be worse or how it coukd be better. Definitely a huge disconnect spiritually.

[WCSDancer2010]

Great follow-up thoughts and THAT is what we try to encourage here... so thank you all for sharing! Yes, comparing one "challenge" to another doesn't get us anywhere. Though sometimes it can be a reality check because much of the time we make really minor things in our lives into major catastrophes because we tend to obsess on that one thing and only look at the negative.

 

The point of the list I made (and as I said, it is FAR from comprehensive) is that there are sooo many things that happen to people that they are "ashamed" of ... and they usually feel they are alone in their experience .... when in fact we ALL have at least one thing that someone else may see as being "bad", or "negative" or whatever .... and ... SO WHAT! If they don't like it, there's a bazillion other people out there that will love you with that "flaw". It pains me sooo much to see people on here who are suffering so much over this stupid, crappy virus .... so sometimes I just put things out there to help them to see that they don't HAVE to buy into those thoughts ....

 

Yes - life is for LIVING! Becoming grateful for everything around you, for every experience (EVEN HERPES ... because you can use the experience as your teacher), can change things profoundly for people.

 

And @Hippyherpy - you mention the whole Buddhist Attachment philosophy - this is one of my go-to websites when I'm getting stuck :)

 

http://zenhabits.net/zen-attachment/

[WCSDancer2010]

Crapola! That link is down ... going to contact the blogger because I REALLY don't want to lose that page... I'll post it if I find it

 

[hippyherpy]

Well said @hippyherpy

 

I had these same thoughts when I was going through my diagnosis. People would say "well it's not Y or it's not Z" and all I could think was...well if it was, I would be able to deal with those, too, right? Because if you tell yourself you're strong enough only for X, what would happen if Y happens?

 

We need to tell ourselves that we are, can, and will deal with whatever comes our way. And learn to cherish those things that are still very positive in our lives...whether it's our parents that are still alive, amazing friends, a steady job or a flourishing romance...and realize that, though we might not have realized it before, we lead great lives. And maybe if the one thing that came out of having H is realizing that our bodies are something to cherish, and that we are lucky in so many other ways, maybe we can turn it into the "opportunity" that this site stands by :)

 

I like the idea of taking something like this and making it an opportunity to further connect in a way that would not be possible without having herpes. Not saying that people should go out and try to get herpes, but herpes disclosure adds a very different dynamic to conversations- an opportunity to show that you are cool with it, with life in general. That's a big deal I think.

 

That you are unaffected by this thing that everyone fears is a huge show of integrity, value, and character. It's the opposite of taking a victim stance.

 

And yes, we have to celebrate the good things we have while we have them, and expect that they won't be there forever, be it our health, family, friends, etc.

 

The other thing to think about as far as perspective goes is that we already have all these other things living and competing within our bodies and even in our minds. There are billions of bacteria, and probably a lot of other viral type things swimming around in us. Herpes is just another one these things.

 

I've had ringworm since I was 13 years old. It seems to never really go away. Also excema. I can put creams on them and they go away. They itch a little and are annoying. That's kind of like what my herpes was like, only it was on my dick. I could probably pass ringworm on to someone by touching in a way similar to herpes. Actually, it's chilled out a lot in the last couple years. Anyway, my point is that it's been there for a while.

 

I found out that a couple of people in my family have herpes after I told them I got it. They never bothered to mention it. One of them just doesn't give a crap, and the other got it so long ago that they don't really think about it at all anymore.

 

 

 

[Bluebetty]

I believe everything will have a cure in the next decade or so. We are living in miraculous times. I did have to "put my life on hold" because there is no way I can assure someone there is no risk. People who do not already have this should not knowingly take the risk. Here is some new research going on that sounds promising. It involves attacking the virus through a lesion though, I wonder how it would work with an asymptomatic person.