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  1. also its worth mentioning  what whey isolate while being high in Lysin is ALSO much easier to digest and better for the body. If anyone is looking for bars that are all whey isolate and no soy quest is a great brand. The flavors in the stores tastes like semi sweet glue. so I suggest buying them online for better flavors. also "lady boss lean" protein powder has been shown to be very easy to digest and is in fact recommended as the only supplement to take after a weight loss surgery (by a friends doctor who is undergoing weight loss surgery)  bc of risk of dumping syndrome and GI discomfort. So that's saying something.   

    so to any other weight lifters out there: there is your FYI. and in case you also didn't know lysin in combination with vit. C creates crenitine in the body which increases oxygen flow to healing muscles and helps fat metabolize  

     

  2. What foods are high in lysine and low in arginine

     

    There is a correlation between Lysine and Arginine in Herpes outbreaks. The general rule is reduce the amount of Arginine in your diet and increase the amount of Lysine.

     

    Fish, chicken, beef, lamb, milk, cheese, beans, brewer's yeast, mung bean sprouts and most fruits and vegetables have more lysine than arginine, except for peas. Gelatin, chocolate, carob, coconut, oats, whole wheat and, white flour, peanuts, soybeans, and wheat germ have more arginine than lysine.

     

    People with viral diseases can benefit from a diet high in lysine and low in arginine. In the following chart, the foods at the top of the list have higher lysine to arginine ratios. Diet and vitamin supplements may influence viral replication. A total approach to nutrition should be used. Use this chart as a guide or a reference only, and see what happens. Look at the absolute figures for lysine and arginine content. There is no reason to avoid a food if it has a low lysine/arginine ratio and only a few mg of arginine in it.

     

     

    Ratio of Lysine to Arginine in Certain Foods

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Margarine

    14.1

    9

    3

    3.000

    Plain Yogurt

    227

    706

    237

    2.979

    Fruit Yogurt, lowfat

    227

    810

    272

    2.978

    Plain Yogurt, skim

    227

    1160

    391

    2.967

    Plain Yogurt, lowfat

    227

    1060

    359

    2.953

    Swiss Cheese

    28

    733

    263

    2.787

    Gruyere Cheese

    28

    768

    276

    2.783

    Edam Cheese

    28

    754

    273

    2.762

    American Cheese Spread

    28

    427

    155

    2.755

    Gouda Cheese

    28

    752

    273

    2.755

    Whey, dry, sweet

    7.5

    77

    28

    2.750

    Blue Cheese

    28

    526

    202

    2.604

    Provolone Cheese

    28

    750

    290

    2.586

    Papaya

    454

    76

    30

    2.533

    Brie Cheese

    28

    525

    208

    2.524

    Camermbert Cheese

    28

    501

    199

    2.518

    Parmesan Cheese

    28

    937

    373

    2.512

    Parmesan Cheese, grated

    5

    192

    77

    2.494

    Gjetost Cheese

    28

    231

    93

    2.484

    Goat Milk

    244

    708

    291

    2.433

    Brick Cheese

    28

    602

    248

    2.427

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Muenster Cheese

    28

    606

    250

    2.424

    Beets

    136

    72

    30

    2.400

    Limburger Cheese

    28

    475

    198

    2.399

    Tilsit Cheese

    28

    578

    241

    2.398

    Port du salut Cheese

    28

    563

    235

    2.396

    Processed Swiss Cheese

    28

    696

    293

    2.375

    Cream Cheese

    28

    192

    81

    2.370

    Mozzarella Cheese, part s

    28

    699

    295

    2.369

    Processed American Cheese

    28

    623

    263

    2.369

    Mozzarella Cheese

    28

    559

    236

    2.369

    Neufchatel Cheese

    28

    253

    107

    2.364

    Butter

    14.1

    9

    4

    2.250

    Colby Cheese

    28

    561

    254

    2.209

    Monterey Jack Cheese

    28

    578

    262

    2.206

    Cheshire Cheese

    28

    551

    250

    2.204

    Cheddar Cheese

    28

    588

    267

    2.202

    Buttermilk

    245

    679

    309

    2.197

    Skim Milk

    245

    663

    302

    2.195

    Half and Half Cream

    242

    568

    259

    2.193

    Sherbet

    193

    171

    78

    2.192

    Condensed Milk, sweetened

    306

    1920

    876

    2.192

    Chocolate Milk

    250

    629

    287

    2.192

    Nonfat Milk, dry

    120

    3440

    1570

    2.191

    Lowfat Milk, 2%

    244

    644

    294

    2.190

    Evaporated Milk

    126

    681

    311

    2.190

    Ice Cream

    133

    381

    174

    2.190

    Whole Milk

    244

    637

    291

    2.189

    Whole Milk, dry

    128

    2670

    1220

    2.189

    Nonfat Milk, dry, instant

    68

    1890

    864

    2.188

    Ice Milk

    131

    409

    187

    2.187

    Whipping Cream, heavy

    238

    387

    177

    2.186

    Evaporated Milk, skim

    128

    763

    349

    2.186

    Whipping Cream, light

    239

    411

    188

    2.186

    Ice Cream, rich

    148

    327

    150

    2.180

    Mango

    300

    85

    39

    2.179

    Whipped Cream, pressurize

    60

    152

    70

    2.171

    Apricot

    114

    103

    48

    2.146

    Coffee Cream

    15

    32

    15

    2.133

    Apple

    150

    17

    8

    2.125

    Ricotta Cheese

    246

    3290

    1550

    2.123

    Ricotta Cheese, part skim

    246

    3320

    1570

    2.115

    Pear, dried

    175

    116

    56

    2.071

    Eggnog

    254

    758

    378

    2.005

    Applesauce, unsweetened

    244

    24

    12

    2.000

    Crabapple, slices

    110

    28

    14

    2.000

    Loquat

    16

    2

    1

    2.000

    Apple, dried

    64

    37

    19

    1.947

    Pear

    180

    23

    12

    1.917

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Apricot, dried

    35

    89

    49

    1.816

    Cottage Cheese, creamed

    210

    2120

    1190

    1.782

    Cottage Cheese, dry

    145

    2020

    1140

    1.772

    Fig, dried

    189

    228

    131

    1.740

    Fig

    65

    19

    11

    1.727

    Human Milk

    246

    168

    105

    1.600

    Avocado

    272

    189

    119

    1.588

    Salmon

    85

    1550

    1000

    1.550

    Swordfish

    85

    1550

    1000

    1.550

    Haddock

    85

    1480

    961

    1.540

    Smelt

    85

    1380

    897

    1.538

    Snapper

    85

    1600

    1040

    1.538

    Pollock

    85

    1520

    989

    1.537

    Eel

    85

    1440

    938

    1.535

    Catfish

    85

    1420

    925

    1.535

    Anchovy, in oit, drained

    20

    531

    346

    1.535

    Whitefish

    85

    1490

    971

    1.535

    Tuna, in water

    165

    4480

    2920

    1.534

    Cod

    85

    1390

    906

    1.534

    Flat fish, flounder and s

    85

    1470

    959

    1.533

    Mackerel

    85

    1450

    946

    1.533

    Shark

    85

    1640

    1070

    1.533

    Carp

    85

    1390

    907

    1.533

    Pike

    85

    1500

    979

    1.532

    Herring

    85

    1400

    914

    1.532

    Sardines, in oil, drained

    24

    542

    354

    1.531

    Bass

    85

    1380

    902

    1.530

    Perch

    85

    1450

    948

    1.530

    Bluefish

    85

    1560

    1020

    1.529

    Halibut

    85

    1620

    1060

    1.528

    Tomato

    123

    41

    27

    1.519

    Turnips

    130

    47

    31

    1.516

    Tomato juice

    243

    54

    36

    1.500

    Soybean sprouts

    70

    386

    266

    1.451

    Canadian Style Bacon

    454

    7370

    5100

    1.445

    Wild pheasant

    371

    7470

    5240

    1.426

    Pork Spareribs

    454

    4730

    3340

    1.416

    Tomato paste

    262

    282

    200

    1.410

    Liver cheese

    28

    334

    237

    1.409

    Chicken, dark meat, w/o s

    109

    1860

    1320

    1.409

    Chicken, light meat w/o s

    88

    1730

    1230

    1.407

    Chicken neck

    79

    298

    212

    1.406

    Summer sausage

    23

    318

    228

    1.395

    Pineapple

    155

    39

    28

    1.393

    Pork leg

    454

    7550

    5530

    1.365

    Pork loin chop

    151

    1950

    1430

    1.364

    Pork Shoulder

    454

    7140

    5240

    1.363

    Potato

    150

    190

    140

    1.357

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Chicken breast

    181

    2500

    1870

    1.337

    Cream of Mushroom soup

    244

    127

    95

    1.337

    Turkey noodle soup

    244

    212

    159

    1.333

    Celery

    120

    32

    24

    1.333

    Potato, baking

    202

    283

    214

    1.322

    Beef Flank steak

    454

    7270

    5500

    1.322

    Chicken gumbo

    244

    161

    122

    1.320

    Chicken noodle soup

    241

    219

    166

    1.319

    Beef Round steak

    454

    7320

    5550

    1.319

    Beef noodle soup

    244

    261

    198

    1.318

    Vegetable w/beef soup

    244

    344

    261

    1.318

    Cream of Asparagus soup

    244

    112

    85

    1.318

    Porterhouse steak

    454

    6560

    4980

    1.317

    Beef T-bone steak

    454

    6330

    4810

    1.316

    Beef Sirloin steak

    454

    6880

    5230

    1.315

    Knockwurst

    68

    634

    482

    1.315

    Beef Rib roast

    454

    6050

    4600

    1.315

    Beef Short ribs

    454

    5430

    4130

    1.315

    Beef Chuck roast

    454

    6900

    5250

    1.314

    Beef Tenderloin

    454

    6990

    5320

    1.314

    Persimmon

    200

    55

    42

    1.310

    Squash, summer

    130

    85

    65

    1.308

    Chicken leg

    231

    2470

    1890

    1.307

    Chicken, light meat

    116

    1920

    1470

    1.306

    Ham, boneless

    454

    6750

    5170

    1.306

    Chicken canned, boned

    142

    2500

    1920

    1.302

    Turkey, dark meat

    152

    2620

    2020

    1.297

    Cream of chicken soup

    244

    215

    166

    1.295

    Chicken heart

    6.1

    79

    61

    1.295

    Turkey, light meat

    180

    3540

    2740

    1.292

    Bratwurst, ckd

    85

    910

    706

    1.289

    Turkey, canned boned

    142

    3040

    2360

    1.288

    Italian sausage, ckd

    67

    1020

    792

    1.288

    Pork sausage

    28

    252

    196

    1.286

    Wild quail

    405

    6660

    5180

    1.286

    Chicken thigh

    120

    1310

    1020

    1.284

    Chicken, dark meat

    160

    2150

    1680

    1.280

    Goose, domesticated

    320

    4010

    3150

    1.273

    Pork and beef sausage

    13

    141

    111

    1.270

    Bologna, beef and pork

    28

    250

    198

    1.263

    Peach, dried

    130

    151

    120

    1.258

    Black bean soup

    247

    415

    331

    1.254

    Bean w/ frankfurters soup

    250

    415

    331

    1.254

    Peach

    115

    20

    16

    1.250

    Corned Beef, brisket

    454

    5100

    4100

    1.244

    Pastrami

    28

    375

    302

    1.242

    Bologna, beef

    28

    254

    205

    1.239

    Frankfurter, beef

    45

    389

    314

    1.239

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Ground beef, regular

    113

    1560

    1260

    1.238

    Cream of celery soup

    244

    73

    59

    1.237

    Ground beef, lean

    113

    1670

    1350

    1.237

    Chicken liver

    32

    35

    352

    1.236

    Duck liver

    44

    624

    505

    1.236

    Turkey liver

    102

    1540

    1250

    1.232

    Goose liver

    94

    1160

    943

    1.230

    Plum

    5.5

    90

    74

    1.216

    Green beans

    110

    97

    80

    1.213

    Chicken back

    177

    1090

    900

    1.211

    Beef smoked, chopped

    28

    467

    386

    1.210

    Pork Bacon

    454

    2900

    2400

    1.208

    Beef, dried

    28

    673

    557

    1.208

    Brotwurst

    28

    323

    268

    1.205

    Polish sausage

    28

    315

    262

    1.202

    Salami, hard

    10

    182

    152

    1.197

    Bologna, pork

    28

    341

    285

    1.196

    Chicken wing

    90

    698

    585

    1.193

    Braunschweiger

    28

    258

    217

    1.189

    Duck, domesticated

    287

    2610

    2210

    1.181

    Lentil sprouts

    77

    548

    470

    1.166

    Lettuce, romaine

    56

    58

    50

    1.160

    Lettuce, iceberg

    75

    60

    52

    1.154

    Caviar, black and red

    16

    293

    254

    1.154

    Cauliflower

    100

    108

    96

    1.125

    Vienna sausage

    16

    127

    113

    1.124

    Liver

    113

    1570

    1420

    1.106

    Guava

    112

    21

    19

    1.105

    New England Clam Chowder

    244

    251

    229

    1.096

    Cream of potato soup

    244

    83

    76

    1.092

    Spinach

    55

    98

    90

    1.089

    Kale

    67

    132

    123

    1.073

    Chicken rice soup

    241

    251

    234

    1.073

    Kielbasa

    28

    286

    267

    1.071

    Frankfurter, beef and por

    45

    407

    382

    1.065

    Whole Egg

    50

    410

    388

    1.057

    Egg White

    33

    206

    195

    1.056

    Whole Egg, dried

    5

    155

    147

    1.054

    Watermelon

    160

    99

    94

    1.053

    Cabbage, chinese

    70

    62

    59

    1.051

    Corn

    154

    210

    200

    1.050

    Sweet potato

    130

    105

    100

    1.050

    Turnip greens

    55

    54

    52

    1.038

    Abalone

    85

    1090

    1060

    1.028

    Oysters

    84

    444

    433

    1.025

    Clams

    180

    1720

    1680

    1.024

    Scallops

    85

    1060

    1040

    1.019

    Banana

    175

    55

    54

    1.019

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Asparagus

    134

    194

    192

    1.010

    Oat flakes

    48

    583

    579

    1.007

    Mayonnaise

    185

    1400

    1400

    1.000

    Vegetarian vegetable soup

    241

    99

    99

    1.000

    Beet greens

    38

    20

    20

    1.000

    Endive

    50

    32

    32

    1.000

    Leeks

    124

    97

    97

    1.000

    Pumpkin

    245

    96

    96

    1.000

    Crab

    85

    1350

    1360

    0.993

    pea soup w/ham

    253

    696

    703

    0.990

    Lima beans, cooked

    170

    765

    775

    0.987

    Egg Yolk

    17

    189

    193

    0.979

    Okra

    100

    82

    84

    0.976

    Broccoli

    88

    124

    128

    0.969

    Chicken gizzard

    37

    465

    484

    0.961

    Strawberries

    149

    37

    39

    0.949

    Collards

    186

    140

    72

    0.931

    Minestrone soup

    241

    183

    198

    0.924

    Carrots

    110

    44

    48

    0.917

    Dates

    83

    50

    55

    0.909

    Peppers, sweet

    100

    38

    42

    0.905

    Radish

    45

    16

    18

    0.889

    Watercress

    104

    172

    200

    0.860

    Swiss chard

    36

    36

    42

    0.857

    Eggplant

    82

    42

    50

    0.840

    Tomato soup

    244

    51

    61

    0.836

    Cabbage, common

    70

    40

    48

    0.833

    Wheat germ

    180

    1330

    1790

    0.743

    Peas, green

    146

    463

    625

    0.741

    Brussels sprouts

    88

    130

    178

    0.730

    Tangerine

    116

    27

    37

    0.730

    Orange

    180

    62

    85

    0.729

    Onions, green

    100

    4

    6

    0.667

    Mushrooms

    70

    48

    72

    0.667

    Cucumber

    104

    22

    36

    0.611

    Wheat granules

    28.4

    101

    169

    0.598

    Corn grits

    242

    68

    114

    0.596

    Snails

    85

    1250

    2100

    0.595

    Wheat, shredded

    23.6

    79

    133

    0.594

    Wheat flakes

    33

    101

    171

    0.591

    Cream of wheat

    251

    98

    166

    0.590

    Pistachios, shelled

    128

    1640

    2790

    0.588

    Corn, puffed

    28.4

    65

    112

    0.580

    Wheat, puffed

    12

    49

    85

    0.576

    Squash, winter

    205

    902

    1590

    0.567

    Bran flakes

    47

    177

    314

    0.564

    Elderberries

    145

    38

    68

    0.559

    Plantain

    148

    89

    160

    0.556

     

    Weight (gm)

    Lys (mg)

    Arg (mg)

    Ratio Lys/Arg

    Oats, puffed

    28.4

    175

    320

    0.547

    Oatmeal

    234

    78

    147

    0.531

    Cashews

    160

    246

    470

    0.523

    Chestnuts, fresh

    160

    246

    470

    0.523

    Rice, puffed

    14

    38

    73

    0.521

    Yams

    200

    89

    191

    0.466

    Pumpkin seeds & squash

    140

    2530

    5570

    0.454

    Garlic

    3

    8

    19

    0.421

    Macadamia nuts

    134

    434

    1200

    0.362

    Blackberries

    145

    17

    49

    0.347

    Onions, mature

    160

    90

    262

    0.344

    Grapes, slip skin

    153

    13

    42

    0.310

    Grapes, adherent skin

    160

    24

    78

    0.308

    Peanuts

    144

    1450

    5050

    0.287

    Peanut butter

    15

    176

    613

    0.287

    Coconut, shredded

    80

    118

    437

    0.270

    Almonds

    142

    946

    3540

    0.267

    Rutabaga

    140

    55

    207

    0.266

    Pecans

    108

    315

    1190

    0.265

    Sesame seeds

    150

    1240

    4990

    0.248

    Hickory nuts

    15

    70

    298

    0.235

    Brazil nuts

    140

    757

    3350

    0.226

    Tahini

    15

    82

    378

    0.217

    Grape juice

    253

    25

    119

    0.210

    Tangerine juice

    247

    17

    84

    0.202

    Pine nuts

    28

    256

    1330

    0.192

    Orange juice

    248

    22

    117

    0.188

    Hazelnuts

    135

    459

    2480

    0.185

    Walnuts

    100

    466

    2520

    0.185

     

    To avoid herpes attacks, balance out the high-arginine foods with high-lysine foods. A classic combination is eating brown rice with cooked dried beans. While brown rice is high in arginine (190 mg), the dried beans have an excess of 270 mg. of lysine, which more than compensates for the lack of lysine in the brown rice. Another approach is to eat very small portions when eating high-arginine foods like hazel nuts and peanuts. Eating certain foods and avoiding others can reduce the pain and prevent recurrences of herpes attacks.

     

    Popcorn has a high arginine to lysine ratio, but those prone to herpes can still enjoy it. After popping, sprinkle with Nutritional Yeast (from the health store). This adds a cheesy flavor to the popcorn. The arginine is neutralized because one tablespoon of nutritional yeast contains 190 mg. more lysine than arginine.

     

    Fish, meats and dairy products are high in lysine. However, eating too much of these high protein foods can make the body too acidic, which can also cause a herpes outbreak. Moderation is the key. Good sources of lysine are also found in wheat germ, legumes and in many fruits and vegetables.

  3. update: did much research. I can literally math what the transmission risk is  based on gender, condom use, med use and strain of virus (1 or 2). So I have mathed it out:  with all the above factors yearly transmission risk with condom use is 0.2116 % for a partner per year. 0.96% without a condom. There is of course the diet change factor which does not come with a proven % number of risk reduction although it IS proven to reduce the shedding and outbreaks so it is pretty safe to assume constancy with proper diet will lower risk quite a bit as well. So assuming my general good health/and diet change added to this it can be reduced to an educated guess of less then 0.2% per year of transmission risk. NICE. 

    although I won't claim anything less then what is proven with actual science backed data. 

     

    also I"m a huge dork. and a huge health nut. this is the only reason I was obsessed enough to make a damn math chart about this hahahah

  4. So if anyone were to read my first post ever on here I was full of rage, and sadness. totally lost. Something really surprising happened.  

     

    After I pulled myself out of that I find that I am so much happier. I don't feel desperate for people approval anymore, I can set boundaries with people by saying no to things I don't want to do, I love my friends more, I reach out to people are hurting. I feel humbled by it and happier then i have in many years. I have no idea why this had such a positive change on me but for example tonight: I'm sitting at home wrapped up in a blanket and drinking hot tea loving my life alone in my apt with my dog sleeping next to me on the floor listening to classical music. 

    It's like I found myself BECAUSE of herpes not despite it. I'm actually kind of grateful for it. I feel like I'm a better friend, a better nurse. I can let people in now, I had to let myself be vulnerable and realized I love having people close to me when I used to keep them at arms length.  I had to face myself and realized I had been hiding from pain from my past for most of my life, that it was time to let it go. That it's okay to let people see it, okay to let them help. I can see other people's pain now, and I want to help in return. 

    It's been a really powerful journey for me. I haven't been happy with just myself in a long time: not because of a boyfriend or situation. I'm just happy to be here and healthy. To have the privilege to take care of my and other people's health.  

     

    Never thought I'd see this day when I was breaking down in my kitchen or when I lay on my couch for days not eating. You guys can be happy.  HSV doesn't have to be the end of your joy. 

     

     

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  5. I guess I am glad to hear its type 1 then. I think this will make it easier to disclose. I also intend to do tons of research first. I was not given a choice so I want to make sure I give someone that. 

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  6. err I have to do a bunch of research now. I have NEVER had a cold sore. Not even as a kid.  So I would really love for it not to be spread there on me or anyone else for that matter. 

    I know type 1 is so common bc of cold sores but I suppose I was lucky until now 

     

     

     

  7. I got my blood tests back. It's type 1.  Anyone have any input about oral sex......or is that a huge no no now. I mean its on my genitals so of course that's always a risk for skin contact but I was kiiiiina hoping for HSV 2. less likelihood of spreading to my mouth or someone else's. Alittle let down.  Feels more high risk 

     

  8. this site saved my mind. I was in the thows of a mental break down when I found it. Wasn't even eating. Hearing about and talking to others has made me feel so supported. Made it easier to open up the real people in my life for support. You would be amazed how the people who love you step up to help you. This whole thing has shown me what wonderful support people I have in my life. 

    bc of this site and the confidence it gave me I am actually happy again. I feel beautiful again. I'm not the same as I was before, prob never again but that's not all a bad thing. It has humbled me, made me more understanding out other people's flaws

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  9. well first of all let me tell you I'm sorry that you had to go through sexual assault. No one should have to know what that feels like. 

    As for your question: I am seeing someone right now who is very sweet, I told him I wanted to wait and he is agreeable. What I was going to do was wait a few weeks then just tell him. Not have sex of course . I was planning on explaining how it transmits and tell him to get tested to see if he is a carrier. If he is clean then I'll just say: 'I understand if you dont want to risk it, I won't be mad at you" honesty is where it's at. I think when you tell is case by case. there was someone I told right away and with this guy I'm waiting. If someone isn't willing to wait for sex there's a good chance their not going to care about you enough as a human to look past H. 

    It has made me change how I relate to dating now. It's I think a good change. weeds out the people who don't care about me. of course I wish i didn't have to deal with this at all. but of course we can't undo HSV, just work around it

     

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  10. Now that I have it I hear them everywhere. I don't react but internally I flinch every time. At some point does it stop bothering you? Even a work friend who doesn't know I have it said yesterday "It's not like I'm having a STD breakout, of course my vagina is healthy"  😞 as part story she was telling. There's a reason I don't tell this friend personal stuff. but still....

  11. Be grateful its not a high risk strain. that's a huge cancer risk.....sex is scary isn't it? All this shit going around with no signs in most people, and in some things no test until the girl gets it :classic_sad: Some things make you unable to have a child or carry one to full term.  iDseases that attack you'r immune system until you die of pneumonia..,

     

    wtf.....am I right?   😓    I'm honestly scared to have sex again. HSV has had me sick for a whole month. Not a single day I have been well. 

  12. so HPV can live in your for a long time before being active. same for men and women. if eather of you had it and it activated.....bam now you both have it if you havent already fought off that strain already. 

    also men cant be tested: theres no test. so if he is carrier he didn't lie to you. he cant know he has it if he never got a wart.

    my ex ignored them and they went away after a few months or  or "took care of them" with a razor. i was like no thanks to that method. they didn't cause him any discomfort

    they really are a very benign thing to have. they dont cause much pain, the body's immune system can fight it off. I wouldnt worry too much about this once.  

  13. I had it for about 5 years. I found that the OBs were....random. Its seemed. I had to get warts burned off every 4 months or so the first year I had it then it decreased over time to almost never after a year and half. If my ex had one I was more likely to have a few where the skin touched it. He would get some very rarely at the base of his penis and i used to get them around the opening so that's right where the skin would rub...My presentation was atypical I was told, and pretty minor. They looked like skin tags or small cysts when I got them. 

    The discomfort was most acute when I had a wart present but I now that I'm remembering...my vaginal opening was always a little....tender. Now that I don't have it anymore that stopped. I thought at the time it was bc my ex was quite large and I'm not.....so sometimes it was painful. sooo in conclusion I don't know if it was from the HPV living in that skin area or my endowed partner causing the pain. I haven't had it since getting rid of it (and him) but I also go for "average" sized guys now too soooo........:classic_huh: 

    Honestly I didn't pay much attention to when I got more or when I went a long time without them bc I was in a long term relationship I thought was very stable so if I noticed any I would just pop over and get them burned off. By burned I mean it was a chemical they dipped on them that "burned" them off. Yes it felt like a chemical was burning my skin off if your wondering. lol The pain was brief was whhooooo. 

    As a side note: a pap will show all HPV. low and high risk. If you have HPV your pap will not be normal 

  14. well first of all. fuck that nurse, I'm a nurse and I can tell you the way she spoke to you was not okay. If she knew anything she would know type 1 can go anywhere so don't worry about her. She clearly has no idea what she is talking about.

    As for the genital warts: I had that about 4 years ago. The body can fight it off. It never caused itching for me. Just mild discomfort during or right after sex. I mean everyone is different but the tried and true way to find out is if it's on your pap. I should be strain.....11 if i remember correctly causing them.  The HPV will most likely just go away. Mine didn't until I left my ex of 6 years. It seemed like his stress kept it present, 6 months after I left him it was gone after years. every pap has been clear since. Now of course harpies but you know.... :classic_wacko:. I'll take the warts back please instead. trades? lol.   

     

    good luck on your UTI, Azo is amazing. Be careful though you'll stain everything around you orange hahah

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  15. i was starting to feel like myself bc my body was healing. then I got a bad case of tonsillitis. Luckily i have some good friends who dragged me to the doctor, I would have ended up in the ER within 2 days.  Apparently I'm very sick. I was blaming it all on my H and didn't even consider it could something else.  So I had been going back they gym and laughing again but I had to stop bc I'm sick...again/still. 

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  16. I have been on valacycolvir x2 daily since the...4th. I do need to go and get blood work but more things keep happening. like found out I was one day or so away from having to having my dang throat drained due to tonsillitis. I'm glad my friend dragged my stubborn ass to the urgent care.  

    I have no idea if I will have any more OB, I have only had my first one so far but I've only had this less then a month so....i sure hope my body adjusts to the virus soon. weight is melting off my like butter from how sick I have been. I was in great shape, a body builder. I look like a skinny sick thing now. 

     

    As for meditation: I sort of learned from my dad and reading some things. Everyone does it differently but what I do is this. (it took alot a practice). I learned how to feel the energy around me/and in me. Learned to "see" it so that I can move it and manipulate it. I know that sounds crazy but it works. I'm a nurse and I have used it on agitated/confused hospice patients and animals. I used to sit in a wooded area by my home for hours at time and try try try. That's where I found my sort of...enlightenment and stopped doing it so purposefully. Now

    I just use mini sessions while I'm going about my day. I also retrained my brain to be positive, accepting, and kind. I used to be an angry piece of shit, just brought everyone around me down. Now I'm good, it's like I have calm sea in my chest almost all the time. I don't let the storms in the world around me impact my calm sea. usually.  I have to say that my HSV diagnosis was a challenge, it took about 7 days for me to get my calm back.  Even now though with my sick body, my soul is peaceful.  

     

     

  17. thank you for sharing your  stories. I felt like I was the only one who this sick since no one was talking about. I'm going to the urgent care today bc my friend won't let me not lol. If anything it would be just on confirm this is a HSV related infection not a secondary one. I don't think I have ever been this sick in my life aside my a stomach virus that was very bad one year. 

  18. I was getting well mentally. but I'm sick as damn dog. I have been for weeks. I'm in so much pain all the time, but this tonsillitis had been the worst. My life is at stand still, losing weight despite eating as much as I can and the weakness. urg.   Many years ago, about 13 years ago i was in a really bad place mentally bc of how i grew up so...I starting meditating and doing brain exercises to control my reactions/moods. Its been very helpful my whole life. I think that's why I have been starting to be able to cope with the DX of HSV so fast, having 10 plus years experience training your mind helps! I would suggest doing the same, it's hard at first but honestly it is so helpful for literally everything. (btw yes i did have melt down, a bad one) I was def not exempt from that.    

     

    Why aren't you taking meds to reduce OB? any particular reason? They seem like, based on my research, very helpful 

  19. Has anyone every had the "herp fever" after first exposure last longer then the standard 2 to 3 weeks?

    Also.... Is it usually very severe for you guys?

     

    My story

          Starting out as fever, runny nose, sinus congestion, body aches, weakness, Nausea with no vomiting,  painful GI spasms, sore throat, exhaustion, headaches that turned into migraines every day, I was never without a headache, and general body pain. 

          That seemed to ease up expect for the sore throat and headaches but both were improving in severity.  Then two days ago the lymph nodes on my left side are so large and painful. The left side of my air way is basically swollen shut. The pain is acute in them. Swallowing is when the pain is worst along with migraine but only on my left side.My ear on the left is also in pain as well as both my eyes, left being much worse then the right.  I count my ibuprofen so I don't exceed 3000 a day, but without 600 mg about every 4 to 5 hours my throat is a 8 out of 10 pain whenever I swallow, and a 4 or 5 out of 10 doing nothing.  the left side of my face and neck are swollen and painful to the touch.

         As for the sores, they were gone a long time ago. A week ago, and to begin with they were very minor. only 2 i saw that were the size of pin head. I was told there were blisters inside the vaginal area (I was told by my OBGYN). Even at its worst without meds it just felt like a yeast infection, I would say it was unconformable for sure but not specifically painful. 

          My emotional reaction is a story for another time (it was a full on mental breakdown) but as of the last 5 days I have been quite calm and happy for the most part.:classic_rolleyes: Lowest stress level I have had since all this started. I had rejoined the world, taught a class at my job (I'm a nurse),  took joy in my pt interactions, went back to the gym again, and hung out with friends. So stress is prob not the cause, I would think.

    -Exposure date: 9/30                                                              -Symptoms appeared 10/2                                              -Started anti-virals on 10/4 

    Can anyone share what happened to them at first exposure and how long it lasted, it is not a popular topic on here in detail. You'r stories would be helpful.

     

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