We both have HSV-2, do we need to wait to be all healed up?

[esdbec0713]

MY primary ob was much worse than that of my....whatever he is at the moment.... primary ob even though we had them hours apart. He's been on generic Valley at 2 grams daily a few days longer then me. My doctor waited for test results, Planned Parenthood looked at his penis and said that's herpes, take this...

 

He's about 90% in terms of feeling and the way the skin looks. I on the other hand don't have any lesions, bumps or cuts however I've had this weird tingling on one side of my labia major for days now and I still feel swollen and am feeling weird pains in my sciatic nerve and at the tail bone. What to do?

[WCSDancer2010]

Well, do you know who was the initial carrier? That person is likely not going to have it spread anywhere else but for those who are in their first 4-6 months you want to be more cautious until you get your antibodies built up or you *can* spread it to other areas especially when dealing with an OB. If you are a relatively new couple sounds like the "partner" may have got it right before meeting you, and given it to you during his first OB. In which case, you BOTH need to be cautious for about 6 months.

 

Once you have antibodies built up, you are "relatively" safe from getting it elsewhere but I wouldn't do anything with a full-on OB ... but that's just me. But once it's started to dry up, you should be fine to resume intimate relations...

 

And question: You say you have HSV2 - was that diagnosed via swab or blood... or visual? If it was visual, that's not a diagnoses, that an OPINION.

[esdbec0713]

We do not know who was the initial carrier. We were together for over 2 years, broke up for 3 months, slept together and he got his first ob and my first within 24 hours of each other. This infection is very new, not even two weeks old, and the fact that I can get it in my eyes ABSOLUTELY freaks me out so I've been extra careful.

 

I had mine swabbed and it came back positive.

 

For the next 6 months would it be wise to go on suppression therapy? Give our bodies time to heal and develop antibodies?

[WCSDancer2010]

If you get blood tests that will tell you if you had it over 4 months. Once the antibodies are into detectable levels you are starting to get enough immunity to protect you.

 

Suppression Therapy is very individualistic ... I never had the option (35+ yrs ago) when I got it..... I personally use only to protect my partners. I like that my body generally can control it on it's own and I just take a couple pills if I think I have an OB coming on ... that usually knocks it right back.

 

Seeing as you both seem to have it, I'd take the Valtrex only if the OB's are too painful to keep up daily life or if you have continual OB's. But that's *my* opinion. In the end you have to do what is right for you.

[esdbec0713]

Well my ob is horrible. Outside if the bumps and just one lesion I've experienced vomiting, the chills, body aches, a cluster on my bottom so bad I originally thought it was hemorrhoids, pain, and I'm having a difficult time urinating. I've been experiencing the tingling/burning feelings on my labia major (just one side though) on my tail bone and on the sciatic nerve.

[WCSDancer2010]

Then the Valtrex *may* help you ... (it actually doesn't help everyone but it's worth a try)

 

Also, try some of the things in the links below...esp. the Epsom Salts baths, using Bactine or Hydrogen Peroxide, going commando, using the blow drier after washing/going to the bathroom to dry it off, and pouring water over the area or using the shower to pee.... there's tons more ideas that have worked for some...

 

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/6024/dealing-with-outbreaks#latest includes links below

http://supporttruthanddialog.com/easy-simple-self-help-tips-for-relief-from-herpes-outbreaks/

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-forum/discussion/4810/bactine-for-oral-and-even-genital-herpes

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-treatment/

http://herpeslife.com/herpes-medication/

 

http://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/2010/genital-ulcers.htm#hsv

 

Links to some of the items suggested in the links

http://amzn.to/1CHUzZE Link to Alum

http://tinyurl.com/Aloecream

http://amzn.to/1F10r3V Fractionated Coconut Oil

http://bit.ly/zincsoap Zinc Soap with coconut oil

http://bit.ly/Zinccream

http://bit.ly/Calendula_Salve

http://tinyurl.com/bactine

http://tinyurl.com/Oragelsgldose

http://tinyurl.com/DMSO4HSV

 

[esdbec0713]

Thank you for the information. I just hope this bladder thing goes away, if it doesn't go away soon I'm going to see a doctor for something to relax the nerves

[2Legit2Quit]

I don't believe there is anything they can do for the bladder issue, but continue to take antivirals. Your nerve that controls your bladderbis being impacted by the virus. Primary obs can cause this. I had an issue w fully emptying as well for about two weeks during my primary. Trying sitting in a warm bath and see if that helps to let you go.

[esdbec0713]

Thank you!

[hippyherpy]

Anti bodies start to build after first out break or as the infection occurs?

[2Legit2Quit]

It takes 3-4 months just to have detectable antibodies, so it takes some time after the initial infection... 6 months is optimal to feel safe w not spreading it to yourself I guess.

[hippyherpy]

Valtrex daily doesn't help in beginning to keep things under control? I haven't a breakout since starting suppressive therapy.

[whitedaisies]

You are very lucky( it doesn't work for everybody)

[2Legit2Quit]

It helps w some people, but you still need antibodies to build up to help more. That's what they say that the first year you're more contagious.. Takes time to build up a high antibody count and then your body usually better contrios it. Remember, antivirals don't replace the antibodies job. They are an analog. They essentially trick the virus in thinking it is the enzyme or protein the virus needs to attach to a cell and then when it attaches to the fake enzyme, it can't enter the cell and that's when our immune system senses it and comes running after it. Then the viruses senses it is being attacked and runs back up into the nerves where the immune system can't get it.

[esdbec0713]

Well I just hope that the swelling goes away because going, either way, is horrible still

[2Legit2Quit]

Have you tried sitting in a shallow bath to go pee or use bactine spray for numbing? Also, some have gotten relief from coating your opening, heavily w Vaseline around your urethra as well, to act as a protectant between your stream and skin.

[esdbec0713]

its not that it burns I have no control over my stream. and I can't fully empty

[2Legit2Quit]

Oh yeah that's right. Sorry, hard to keep up w who is having what symptoms. Give it some time and continue taking antivirals until that symptom subsides

[esdbec0713]

Oddly enough, my boyfriend's sister has had h for the last 6 or 7 years now. (Shows you just how common it is) I told her my symptoms and she asked how much I was taking per day and I told her 2 grams if genetic Valtrex. She said to see what happens if I upped the dose to 4 grams per day like they did during her primary. I took 2 grams, instead of 1gram, two hours ago and I feel good. The numbness/tingling/burning is 90% gone from what it was at 5 or 6 hours ago. I'm actually excited to use the bathroom!!!! Has anyone ever heard of taking this much?

 

I got a severe ob, the doctor said I had a scratch mark on my cervix, vomitted, chills, joint pain, nerve pain and so on. So wouldn't a higher dose be called for?

 

My boyfriend on the other hand is 100% healed and he was cultured at Planned Parenthood and they told him yesterday that they couldn't get the virus to reproduce in the lab. They told him that since his body handled it so well for a primary it's very unlikely he'll even have an ob again.... lucky man....

[fyrefenyx]

Me and my previous partner had hsv2. We were together for 2 years. We each refrained from doing anything when we felt an onset coming on/were having an OB. We took our meds as needed. You may want to take your meds to help you with the OBs. When we didn't have OBs, sex was on like donkey Kong (including oral)

[esdbec0713]

My ob that I'm having now is from hell. This is the longest time we have not had set and it sucks...

[2Legit2Quit]

I have known a person who took very high doses due to his constant symptoms and he's had it for like 15 or more years. Do what works for you. Glad you have her for support as well. It's always good to have support at home and not just online.

 

I hear ya girl. I didn't get the joint pain, but I had bouts of dizziness, nausea and almost passed out a few times. Although I had some pain from the sores, it was bearable . it was that damn neuropathy that turned my life at that time upaide down. It was excruciating. I felt like a burn victim and the shooting electrical shocks were horrific and would make my whole body jerk in pain. Be glad you don't have to take anticonvulsants like I did for the first four months after your primary. Keep me posted on your symptoms.

 

Men usually don't get it as bad, which is why it's mostly females on here among other reasons. We're more attentive to our bodies and we don't go into denial as often as a man does.

[esdbec0713]

I've had the nausea too but it's the odd nerve pain and sensations along with the bladder issue that is going me in. How do the doctors want me to heal if I can't even pee in peace!?

 

M boyfriend kinda went into shut down mode. He said to me yesterday that all I do is talk about it, I told him it's how I cope. Glad I got you guys!

[2Legit2Quit]

Yeah, I have two very close best guy friends and they totally withdraw when dealing w something. Men are just different. When they need to process and cope w something, they tend to go into themselves. They do not have the need for constant discussion about said issue, like women do. Women have to talk shit to death. Only till we have inspected EVERY damn orfices of the scenario and discussed results of said orfice, do we move on. We're just wired differently.

 

In my period of time giving support on forums, men don't come to acceptance and dealing w H as easily as women do for the most part. It just takes them longer sometimes to come around, so I know it's hard, but try not to take it personally. My friends thought I talked about it all the time too.. You'll grow out of that phase, don't worry.

[esdbec0713]

"Talk shit to death" has been used to describe me when I become fixated on something. Glad someone understands!